Thursday, December 18, 2014

Jamie and Gillian Anderson On The Cover Of The Guardian Guide - New Interview

Deep within a former army barracks in Belfast, I am peering inside a car boot, looking for clues. Someone has set the vehicle on fire, but if they were hoping to destroy everything incriminating they’ve not done a great job. There’s a training shoe. A piece of a stocking. A trolley wheel. A bra. As in a real investigation, the vehicle has been sprayed with glue to make sure vital evidence doesn’t get blown away.
On the set of The Fall, attention to detail is all. Now returning for a second series, the drama concerns a meticulous psychopath (Paul Spector, played by Jamie Dornan) and the painstaking operation led by DI Stella Gibson (Gillian Anderson) that aims to catch him. Unlike most crime serials, The Fall isn’t a whodunnit but a whydunnit. It uses the time other shows might spend on red herrings to build intimate profiles of detective and criminal.

“That’s probably explored slightly more in the new series,” says 32-year-old Dornan, perspiring slightly after a game of football with the crew. “From Spector’s point of view, you might find out more about him and more about why he is the way he is, rather than the… doing.”
The Fall brings us up close to both parties, often uncomfortably so. We’ve seen Gibson wolfing down a room-service burger, and looked inside her post-coital bathroom bin. We’ve watched Spector stalking his victims but also washing his daughter’s hair and working as a bereavement counsellor. These chilling juxtapositions have proven addictive. Each episode of season one drew over 3 million viewers, and helped make Dornan a star, possibly at a price.

“In a worrying way, I find Paul relatable,” Dornan says. “There’s times when I scare myself how his reactions would be similar to mine. You carry some of that anger with you. You can’t fail to be left scarred by inhabiting something like that for two seasons.”

When I meet the cast of The Fall in May they are 13 weeks into a 16-week shoot. The show’s first series introduced us to Spector’s compartmentalised world of fetishes and compulsions, and his violent pathology. We observed how Gibson gradually pieces together his modus operandi: killing brunette women with good jobs; staging crime scenes; taking souvenirs.
The first series kept its main characters purposely apart. There were no showdowns, apart from in the last episode, when Gibson and Spector talked on the phone and Gibson revealed how far her investigation had progressed. We saw Spector and his family packing for a new life in Scotland. That unresolved ending was a “cop out” (nice pun, Daily Mail!), and “a big disappointment” (Radio Times). Twitter, uncharacteristically, was up in arms. On set, the producers explain it as the way of the TV world: they had to start small. Says Stephen Wright, commissioning editor for BBC Northern Ireland: “It was commissioned as a single series with an open-or-shut ending after the first five hours. We did the business and got a second series. That’s how it works.”

Written by Alan Cubitt (who also directs all six episodes), series two picks up the characters shortly after we left them, with things, in Wright’s words, “pitching to a climax”. Spector’s family return to the city, and Spector eventually does too, ostensibly to follow up on what Gibson told him in their conversation. But also, it appears, to return to killing.

There are complications. Gibson is attempting to take formal statements from key witness Rose Stagg. Meanwhile, Spector’s last victim has regained consciousness, and Gibson is determined to help salvage her repressed memories of the attack.

“It feels like a hunt,” says Gillian Anderson, now a producer on the show and evidently delighting in her claim to a cool character who gets results on her own terms. Sexually, Gibson is uncompromising. “There’s more about her… inclinations,” Anderson hints. “If not necessarily sex scenes.” As producer, does she now have a say who gets cast opposite her in such moments? She smirks: “I can’t say.”
Gibson already has a strong recognition factor. Does she get reactions in the street? “I’m not in the street very much,” Anderson says drily. “But people are positive. When it was airing, it wasn’t so much ‘There’s Gillian Anderson’, it was ‘There’s Stella Gibson’. It was very different to other experiences I’ve had.”

Gibson is a character to fire the imagination. We don’t know much about her but Anderson sees this enigma as room to manoeuvre, a way to explore issues of gender equality and femininity. Gibson has got some secrets (“Aspects of her nature are very dark,” she says), and is persuasively tough. According to some media, she has even made white blouses iconic, which pleases Anderson. “I was trying to convince Stella McCartney to do a line of ‘Stella’ blouses,” she says, “but I don’t think she quite understood.”

The first character in a serial drama Anderson has played since the The X-Files, Gibson has had an effect on her. “There’s a level of self-respect, how she takes care of her clothes,” she says. “I started to pay more attention to that, and honour myself as a woman.”

Resourceful and clear-sighted, Gibson is the only person likely to catch Spector, and it’s the way the series captures his crimes that makes it uniquely unsettling. The camera builds a sense of homes and private spaces, and lingers forensically over the details in characters’ lives as a voyeur, criminal or detective might. When these spaces are later violated, it is hugely shocking. A sequence in the first episode of the new series is likely to make you levitate with anxiety.

“The more you draw the audience into a psychological relationship with the victims, the more impactful the dramatic moments will be,” says Allan Cubitt. “You don’t have to cut people up.”
The Fall has been criticised for its depiction of violence against women – an Express columnist called it a “glossy excuse for misogyny”. Cubitt feels those charges are unfair, or at least selective (although he has since admitted that the camera did linger too intimately on Spector’s acts). “Having seen The Returned, where a woman was walking in a PVC catsuit, then was stabbed in an eroticised manner by someone who tried to eat her internal organs,” he says, “I didn’t see how the Fall was overtly sensational.”

Cubitt was determined to make a drama that dissected male violence and sought veracity on screen. On set, the Guide visits two interrogation suites and an authentically chilly row of cells. In the evidence room next door, a specialist computer has been imported from Israel. Police officers have advised on everything from crime-scene procedure to car parking. Cubitt set Dornan serial-killer homework.

“Allan wrote me a list of rotten books, which I read in bed with my wife,” says Dornan. “Anyone can get an idea alarmingly quickly of what it’s like in the mind of some of these guys.”
Whereas Gillian Anderson has been a major name for 20 years, Dornan is in the odd situation of having become a heartthrob in the course of playing a psychopath. But he can see the funny side of being TV’s best-looking murderer (“Is it wrong to fancy a psychopath? Not really; each to their own,” he smiles). Even if the role has earned him the attention of Hollywood (if you didn’t know, he’s about to star in the adaptation of 50 Shades Of Grey) it has also got him “a few strange reactions” in the street. Given his character’s dual life, it’s not surprising.

“We see him in his family and professional worlds, and what he gets off on,” says Dornan, “the preparation for the kill, the act and the aftermath. Seeing them together like that is what I think is the genius of the show.”
Even though the story is set to move to a dramatic conclusion, it seems unlikely that a success like The Fall will be allowed to die with the Spector storyline. Might there be a series beyond it? “That sounds perfectly feasible to me,” says Dornan, who cautiously adds, “but I’m not sure I’d be involved…”

Gillian Anderson isn’t giving much away either, but as someone playing a cool, feminist cop on the way to becoming a classic character, equally she isn’t ruling anything out. So, is season two the end?

She smiles, very much as someone who knows something you don’t might: “Oh, I think there’ll be a third…”

New Jamie Quotes From Notebook Magazine

New Jamie Quotes From Notebook Magazine

New quotes:

We love Stella's character, what's Gillian Anderson like? 

I had one fleeting moment with her in the first season and can't say too much about how many we have in the second. It's a way of finding out if people haven't seen the show if they say 'What's Gillian Anderson like to work with?' I've no idea! 

And you now have a year-old baby daughter... 

I've had about a week off in a year. I've aged rapidly. Personal things, babies. I don't think there's any negative things to be said about being a dad. And I had no idea what to expect.

NEW Interview of Jamie with Sunday Life

NEW Interview of Jamie with Sunday Life 

Holywood-born hunk Jamie Dornan has had one eventful year.

He’s tied the knot, become a dad for the first time, and finished filming what is tipped to be next year’s movie blockbuster, Fifty Shades of Grey.

And of course, there was The Fall.

“You know, when I first auditioned for it, I was so relieved,” the actor, 32, told Sunday Life.

“The first thing I said to Allan [Cubitt] was, this is so lovely to read something set in this part of the world that doesn’t involve the Troubles directly or sectarianism, or any of those crap things that hold this country back.

“Not that it’s some kind of love story or altogether positive, but it’s just refreshing that it wasn’t about that. And you know, why not set it here?

“There’s no definitive need for it to be set in Belfast, but it’s a great backdrop, and it’s been said so many times — Belfast is like a character in the show. And I totally agree with that.

“Am I proud? Yeah, I’m definitely proud.”

And so he should be.

Not only is the award-winning Belfast-based drama the BBC’s most successful in over two decades — it also catapulted the former underwear model to huge acting fame.

So when it came to taking on the killer role for a second time, it was never in doubt — despite his hectic showbiz schedule.

Speaking to Sunday Life on set of the new series of The Fall, Jamie said: “There’s been a bit of juggling around but my goal has always been to be here.

“I’ve had about a week off in a year, and I think I’ve aged rapidly, but that’s fine!”

The star joined his fellow cast members, including The X-Files star Gillian Anderson, on the site of the former Massereene army barracks in Antrim, where the cast and crew have been filming top-secret scenes for the hotly anticipated second series.

Fans of the show, which returned to RTE on Sunday night andis back on BBC 2 this Thursday night will see Jamie’s character — deranged grief counsellor turned serial killer Paul Spector — return to the streets of Belfast where he stalked and killed his victims.

Viewers of the first series will remember how the killer fled to Scotland with wife Sally-Ann, played by actress Bronagh Waugh, and two young children, as hard-nosed DSI Gibson closed in on the psychopath.

The married dad — who wed singer Amelia Warner last year — previously admitted that playing the hate-filled character, who strangled and tied up his victims, had “scarred” him.

But he told Sunday Life: “I’m a bit more comfortable playing him this time around — which is disturbing enough in itself — but I find myself very eager to become him again.

“I like playing characters who are fractured, broken. I find that more relatable for some reason.”

“I don’t feel like I’m like that in my own nature, there’s just something that you can grab a hold of if people have a darkness in them — I enjoy that.”

But there is one side of the psychotic multiple murderer that the star says that he has struggled with this time around.

“I think it’s that little bit harder for me now that I have experienced some kind of paternal relationship,” said Jamie, whose baby daughter will turn one this month.

“I think that’s what makes it so harrowing on screen, it’s the proximity in which he acts within his family world and his professional world and what he gets off on, the killing, the preparation for the kill, and the actual act and the aftermath.

“And seeing them together like that is what I think the genius of the show.”

He added: “I think Allan [Cubitt] has said this before, that he’s incapable of love, and he doesn’t love his children.

“But I will argue with the writer and the creator on that.

“I think he does show an element of love and I think that’s essential to tell a story and essential to understand that side of him. I do think he loves his kids and I do think to a point he loves his wife.

“I’m not putting him up for any father of the year awards or anything, but I do think that there’s a care there.”

Jamie, who will play kinky millionaire Christian Grey in the film adaption of Fifty Shades of Grey next year, said viewers can expect the series to be as dark and as chilling as before.

“The character hasn’t changed,” he says. “We follow on the story, not very long after we finished the first one so I approach it in the same way and have the head space in the same way, I don’t think it’s any darker than the first series.”

And the one question on everyone’s lips — will the hunted come face to face with his hunter, DSI Stella Gibson?

“I had one fleeting moment with her in the first series, and I can’t really say too much more about how many moments I have with her in the second series, but it’s a strange thing.

“It’s the classic cat-and -mouse thing, there are comparisons. They talk about that in the phone call at the end of the last series. Spector thinks he’d like Gibson and I think there’s something to be said in that, I think that’s very interesting. And I’ve carried that with me.”

With producers promising explosive scenes as time appears to run out for Spector, it’s not clear just how long the 32-year-old has left as the sadistic sexual predator.

However, Dornan believes that the thrilling crime drama could go on for a third series — with or without him.

“I’m not sure I’ll be involved in it for story reasons — I don’t know what happens at the end really.”

Jamie On The Cover of Shortlist Magazine (November 2014) - Interview + Pictures

Jamie On The Cover of Shortlist Magazine (November 2014) - Interview + Pictures 


From serial killers to Christian Grey, Jamie Dornan isn’t afraid to plumb the depths of male depravity. ShortList meets a normal bloke with a taste for the dark stuff

The most terrifying man on television is having a quick blast of his asthma pump. “Just when you thought he couldn’t get any cooler,” says Jamie Dornan with a smile, padding his way from the dressing room through to the studio for today’s photoshoot. Putting aside the incongruity of this image for a second, Dornan is a man who – at the moment at least – you wouldn’t begrudge a spot of anxious breathlessness.
In less than 18 months he’s gone from a model and occasional actor mostly known for a series of monster Calvin Klein billboards – you know the ones: Eva Mendes, tiny briefs, liberal dousing of Crisp ’n Dry – to one of the most dropped names in Hollywood’s juice bars of power. He’s been nominated for a Bafta, appeared in acclaimed TV dramas and, the week we speak, he’ll finish work on a new Bradley Cooper comedy. He is very much on the brink. And so, of course, he’s utterly knackered.
“It’s been a fun couple of years, but I’m due a break,” he says sleepily, when we eventually sit down for a chat. “I've got the next few weeks off and, mate, I’m going to enjoy that.” He’ll need to. The show that made his acting career will soon return, bringing more opportunities, far-flung film sets, awards show appearances.
And that’s before we even touch on his biggest role to date – a gigantic, ballsy career gamble that could yet torpedo the whole enterprise and see him surrender his relative anonymity for a life dodging paparazzi lenses, as well as fans looking to get spanking paddles autographed.
So, yeah. He may want to keep that inhaler close at hand.
Falling upwards
The neat version of the Jamie Dornan story presents him as something of an overnight success, striding from the world of modelling straight into the role of a lifetime. Of course, the truth is it wasn't anywhere near that easy. Having acted since he was a schoolkid in Northern Ireland, Dornan’s two careers ran in tandem for a while, and his first major role came in 2006, playing a bewigged hunk in Sofia Coppola’s Marie Antoinette.
In the years that followed that breakthrough he fitfully attempted to bulk up his IMDb entry but, looking back at his wayward mid-twenties as a very settled 32-year-old, he admits his heart may not have been truly in it. There were disastrous auditions (“I once attempted a Geordie accent, having never practised it,” he says in his decidedly Belfast burr. “I had to just walk out”), and few breakthroughs.
His big chance would come, surprisingly enough, not as a square-jawed hero, but as a cold-eyed villain. Allan Cubitt, the crime drama auteur behind Prime Suspect 2, had a vision for a murder investigation thriller where, for a change, the serial killer wasn't the drooling loner in the overalls, but the good-looking family man and grief counsellor no one would suspect. Throw in an icily efficient detective-out-of-water, a grubby smear of Belfast police corruption, bubbling sexual politics, terrifyingly plausible home invasion scenes (plus the residual joy of spotting local Game Of Thrones actors in modern dress) and you had The Fall – one of the most electrifying, and audacious, new TV show concepts in recent years.
But without actors a concept is just that. And Dornan – twitchy and terrifying, pathetic and relatable – was a revelation as Paul Spector, the ladykiller who looks like, well, a ladykiller. And Gillian Anderson, on the trail of Spector as Stella Gibson (AKA Sarah Lund in a silk blouse), provided the perfect steely counterpoint to his convincing sadism. So did he always know he could be so creepy?
“I’m trying to think back to bad dates I’ve been on and what my feedback was,” he says with a laugh. “Was it ever, ‘He was creepy and I feared for my life?’ Obviously, I’m nothing like [Spector], but I think I’ve surprised even myself with the darkness that’s there.”
Murder inc
He did his homework, too, studying outwardly ‘normal’ real-life murderers such as Ted Bundy to a troubling degree. “I’m still carrying some aspects of it with me,” he says. “It always takes me a while, and it affects me. I’ve read a lot of horrific stuff.” How did he cope with having to go to those dark places on a daily basis?
“I didn’t find it healthy to occupy that headspace at all times,” he admits. “Also, I have quite a lot of energy and find it hard to sit still, but I’d made a choice with Spector that he is very still. So between takes I had to f*cking run in circles, run around corridors, scream constantly. It was probably really irritating, because I was going a bit mental.”
This primal off-camera approach clearly worked. The Fall was recommissioned for a second series – having ended on an agonising cliffhanger – amid reports that the show’s makers had filmed two different endings to hedge their bets. Dornan is quick to dismiss those rumours. “As if the BBC would fork out all that money for an alternative ending,” he chuckles. “It was a lie. I think certain people were disappointed with the ending, but the thing was, Allan went to the BBC and said he wanted 12 episodes, and they said, ‘We’ll give you five.’ Allan, who’s almost too intelligent for his own good, always knew that if the first five were received well, we’d get the chance to finish it off. Or keep it going.”
Grumbles aside, that final episode afforded an opportunity – albeit via a slightly hokey villain vs hero phone conversation – for the two leads to actually have a proper scene together. And, while the upcoming second series finds Spector on the run after a botched kill, Dornan hints that this may not stand in the way of more scenes with the “incredibly talented, but surprisingly daft and childish” Anderson.
“When I got the breakdown for the second series, I was shaking,” he says, choosing his words carefully in an attempt to not blow the plentiful surprises. “The scale of it has grown, there are twists and turns and there are moments [with Gillian] which I can’t say too much about. What’s fascinating about these guys, like Ted Bundy, is they feel they’re on a different level and can’t be harmed. Their arrogance is phenomenal.
“And that’s why it’s so interesting when you see Spector slip up. Cracks start to appear and Stella gets a bit of a foot in. That’s what makes it great television, and it’s probably explored slightly more in the second series. It’s what I love most about him. Obviously what he’s doing is horrific – pure evil – but we get to see a human, relatable side to him at work and with his family, which makes it more chilling to watch. You are literally thinking that it could be your next-door neighbour. And I’ve had people say, ‘He’s a sick bastard, but I kind of wanted him to get away with it.’”
Grey matter
It’s here that we come to one of the stranger aspects of The Fall kicking off a spate of Dornan-mania. Despite his stubbly good looks, you’d think playing a twisted killer who preys on innocent single women would hurt his dream boat status. Not a bit of it.

In fact, a brunette friend of mine, tongue only slightly in cheek, once proudly trilled about being “his type”. Has he found that playing a psychopath has, bafflingly, only increased his admirers? “It’s mad, but I don’t know if it’s about aesthetics,” he says, looking slightly embarrassed. “I think it’s just very clever writing, based on the layers he’s got and the moments we see in his personal life.”
Dornan may feel understandable discomfort around Spector’s standing as a hugely unlikely sex symbol, but he’ll soon be seen depicting a more conventional, if similarily warped, lust object. Late last year, after Charlie Hunnam abruptly left the role, Dornan was offered the chance to play Christian Grey in the film adaptation of EL James’s arse-spanking juggernaut Fifty Shades Of Grey. He had lost out to Hunnam initially but, with cameras due to roll, he was hauled from the set of Channel 4 drama New Worlds for meetings in LA, and offered a second chance at the horndog with the helicopter.
“Usually with those things people say ‘Take your time’, but I didn’t really have a huge amount of time,” he laughs. “So you just call on the people that represent you and the people you love and collectively make a decision.” That mention of “people he loves” nods to the fact that his wife, musician and actor Amelia Warner, was heavily pregnant with their first child at the time, and probably not keen on uprooting to Vancouver so her husband could roll around on camera with Dakota Johnson. How did he package that one?
“Well, my wife is a brilliant, hugely understanding person,” he says. “Plus, she was an actress for 10 years, so she’s aware of what it’s like. A lot of people would have had a sh*t fit at 30-something weeks pregnant, hearing, ‘Darling, we’re going to Vancouver this week for four months – we’re going to have a Canadian baby and I’m going to do a film where, for parts of it, I will be naked.’ That’s a tough pitch, but my wife is an incredible person.”
S&M school
For his part, despite the last-minute nature of his casting, Dornan threw himself into it as best he could. He read the book and, off his own back, employed the services of an S&M expert to show him the ropes (knots, chains, handcuffs).
“It’s such a big part of the character that I wanted to know what I was doing,” he says with a smirk. “This guy came along with his submissive, I sat in the corner with a beer and watched. My driver was on the other side of the door, God knows what he thought.”
And here we’re back to the gamble of leaping from a small critical hit to one of the strangest blockbusters (Mills & Boon with ballgags, The Notebook with nipple clamps) in recent memory.
I remind Dornan that the Fifty Shades trailer is the most watched of 2014, and he suddenly looks quite pained, perhaps reminded of its looming hugeness. What’s more, you sense some critics are already lacing up their jackboots for it (months after our interview, Dornan returns to Vancouver for reshoots, as the internet burbles with talk of disappointing test footage and absent chemistry between Dornan and Johnson).
Dornan, it’s clear, has no regrets (“I’d have been mad not to do it,” he reasons) and is already looking to the future. There’s that Bradley Cooper film (a comedy in the world of elite chefs) and he keeps dropping hints about his role in The Fall, implausibly perhaps, having a life beyond this series (“If people want something, you want to give them it”), but more than that he wants to play golf, hang out with his daughter, see his wife.
In fact, Warner is on her way to meet him now, leaving me time for just one more question. I blurt something about the increasing pressure on leading men to be absurdly ripped. Has he found it hard? Training, avoiding carbs, pints and other vices? “Erm, I haven’t given up anything,” he says. “My only vice is crisps, but I can get away with that. I’ve never really found myself out of shape."
And there I was starting to like him...

New Interview of Jamie with BBC + Gillian Anderson Talks About Jamie

New Interview of Jamie with BBC + Gillian Anderson Talks About Jamie 



Jamie Dornan is playing a very different role with Gillian Anderson as series two of The Fall begins.

The BBC Two drama sees Anderson star as a detective on the hunt for serial killer Dornan.

During the first series of show the pair only had a handful of scenes together.

Yet Jamie Dornan says the chemistry between them is undeniable, even though most of their on screen contact, was by phone.

"I think that it's so clever. The fact that there is such chemistry and it's done through any lack of physical contact."

According to figures around 4.5m viewers a week tuned in to watch The Fall.

"It's just down to great writing, very smartly crafted," he added.

'Worryingly easy'

Gillian Anderson, who became an international star, with her role as Special Agent Dana Scully in The X-Files says series two will see the pair share much more screen time.

Given the storylines The Fall deals with, Jamie Dornan says it was important there was some light relief while filming.

"On a general level it's a pretty fun set. It's the same crew as the first series. So we are like a big family," the actor said.

Dornan, 32, confessed the light relief was provided by him - even if no-one else laughed.

"I'd love to be known as a prankster but no, I'm not hiding stuff in Gillian's trailer or anything like that.

"But I like to have a laugh. I can get very silly and make jokes. Which are not funny to anyone but me," he giggled.

The Fall starts on Thursday night on BBC Two at 21:00 GMT


Gillian Anderson says she struggles to see Jamie Dornan in anything other than his birthday suit because of his Fifty Shades role.

"I could only see him naked from the moment he walked in. It was really distracting," the actress joked.

A film based on the hugely successful book is due out in February 2015 with Dornan playing Christian Grey.

"The movie hasn't even come out - he might suck," Anderson said when asked about the anticipation surrounding it.